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Aleazlllll
Aleazlllll 1 y 3 mo 22 d
The Downstreamer (MV) - vs - Team Alien X (Ben 10)
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The Downstreamer (MV) each universe follow the ultimate ensamble+set theory
They are considering constraints on the ultimate manifold."

Maura suspected that she was going to struggle with the rest of this conversation. "The Manifold of what?"

"Universes. It is of course that all logically possible universes must exist. The Universe, this universe, is described--umm, thats the wrong word--by a formal system. Mathematics. A system of mathematics.

Maura frowned. "You mean a Theory of Everything?"

Anna waved a hand, as if that were utterly trivial, and her beautiful wings rustled.

"But there are many formal systems. Some of them are less rich, some more. But each formal system is logically consistent internally, describes a possible universe, which therefore exists."
MANIFOLD: TIME, PART 4
Some of these universes, as described by the formal systems, are rich enough to support self-aware substructures. Life. Intelligence.
MANIFOLD: TIME, PART 4
Cassiopeia had spent time trying to teach him about a phenomenon just a little beyond his own horizon — as chaos theory might have been to an engineer of, say, the 1950s. It was something to do with the emergence of complexity. The Gaijin seemed able to see how complexity, even life, naturally emerged from the simplest of beginnings: not fundamental physical laws, but something even deeper than that — as far as he could make out, the essential mathematical logic that underlay all things.
MANIFOLD: SPACE, CHAPTER 10
Human scientists had a glimmering of this. His own DNA somehow contained, in its few billion bases, enough information to generate a brain of three trillion connections… But for the Gaijin this principle went farther. It was like being given a table of prime numbers and being able to deduce atoms and stars and people as a necessary consequence of the existence of the primes. And since prime numbers, of course, existed everywhere, it followed there was life and people, humans and Gaijin, everywhere there could be. Life sprouting everywhere, like weeds in the cracks of a pavement. It was a remarkable, chilling thought
MANIFOLD: SPACE, CHAPTER 10
"Infinity is significant, you see," Nemoto said, too rapidly. "There is, umm, a qualitative difference between a mere large number, however large, and infinity. In the infinite manifold, in that infinite ensemble, all logically possible universes must exist. And therefore all logically possible destinies must unfold. Everything that is possible will happen, somewhere out there. They created a grand stage, you see, Emma: a stage for endless possibilities of life and mind."
MANIFOLD: ORIGIN
Whatever the origin of the manifold, within it there could be an infinite number of universes. And in an infinite ensemble, everything which is logically possible must—somewhere, somehow—come to pass.
PHASE SPACE
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Aleazlllll
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The Downstreamer (MV) each mathematical concept generates a physical structure, and viceversa
Some of these universes, as described by the formal systems, are rich enough to support self-aware substructures. Life. Intelligence.
MANIFOLD: TIME, PART 4
Cassiopeia had spent time trying to teach him about a phenomenon just a little beyond his own horizon — as chaos theory might have been to an engineer of, say, the 1950s. It was something to do with the emergence of complexity. The Gaijin seemed able to see how complexity, even life, naturally emerged from the simplest of beginnings: not fundamental physical laws, but something even deeper than that — as far as he could make out, the essential mathematical logic that underlay all things.
MANIFOLD: SPACE, CHAPTER 10
Human scientists had a glimmering of this. His own DNA somehow contained, in its few billion bases, enough information to generate a brain of three trillion connections… But for the Gaijin this principle went farther. It was like being given a table of prime numbers and being able to deduce atoms and stars and people as a necessary consequence of the existence of the primes. And since prime numbers, of course, existed everywhere, it followed there was life and people, humans and Gaijin, everywhere there could be. Life sprouting everywhere, like weeds in the cracks of a pavement. It was a remarkable, chilling thought
MANIFOLD: SPACE, CHAPTER 10
Aleazlllll
Aleazlllll 1 y 3 mo 22 d
The Downstreamer (MV) - vs - Team Alien X (Ben 10)
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The Downstreamer (MV) there are also the matheamtical platonic concepts in a universe, that transcend the universe as well
Cassiopeia had spent time trying to teach him about a phenomenon just a little beyond his own horizon — as chaos theory might have been to an engineer of, say, the 1950s. It was something to do with the emergence of complexity. The Gaijin seemed able to see how complexity, even life, naturally emerged from the simplest of beginnings: not fundamental physical laws, but something even deeper than that — as far as he could make out, the essential mathematical logic that underlay all things.

Human scientists had a glimmering of this. His own DNA somehow contained, in its few billion bases, enough information to generate a brain of three trillion connections… But for the Gaijin this principle went farther. It was like being given a table of prime numbers and being able to deduce atoms and stars and people as a necessary consequence of the existence of the primes. And since prime numbers, of course, existed everywhere, it followed there was life and people, humans and Gaijin, everywhere there could be. Life sprouting everywhere, like weeds in the cracks of a pavement. It was a remarkable, chilling thought

Infinity is significant, you see," Nemoto said, too rapidly. "There is, umm, a qualitative difference between a mere large number, however large, and infinity. In the infinite manifold, in that infinite ensemble, all logically possible universes must exist. And therefore all logically possible destinies must unfold. Everything that is possible will happen, somewhere out there. They created a grand stage, you see, Emma: a stage for endless possibilities of life and mind."

universes exist on an infinite heirarchy that reach even woodin cardinals, that are strongly inaccessible

A recursion


The void are conceptually above all this
This is the basis of the new unified theory,' Philmus said. 'A unification of phenomena through the structure of a higher-dimensional space.'

Himmelfarb's face was turning to pixels again. 'It isn't as simple as that,' she said. 'The whole notion of dimensionality is an approximate one that only emerges in a semi-classical context—-well. I don't suppose it matters now.
PHASE SPACE: DANTE DREAMS
Near and far do not add or subtract there, since where God rules without mediation the laws of nature have no relevance.
DANTE PARADISO
We are outside the Primum Mobile: beyond duration, beyond the structure of space. Dante understood this place. "There near and far neither add nor subtract…
PHASE SPACE: DANTE DREAMS
they are beyond the concepts of size, space-time and dimensionality

And the three of them, like birds hovering beneath the domed roof of a cathedral, ascended into the Empyrean.
They passed into a layer of darkness, like a storm cloud. The hemispheres of the 3-sphere—the Earth and its nested spheres, the globes of the angels—faded like stars at dawn.
But Himmelfarb's eyes glowed brightly. And then, space folded away. Philmus could still see Boyle, Himmelfarb, the priest's shining eyes. But she couldn't tell how near or far the others were. And when she tried to look away from them, her eyes slid over an elusive darkness, deeper than the darkness inside her own skull.
There was no structure beyond the three of them, their relative positions. She felt as small as an electron, as huge as a galaxy. She felt lost.

She clung to Himmelfarb's hand. 'Where are we? How far

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