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Eru Ilúvatar (J.R.RTN)vsAslan (Divine) (Narnia)

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mtrindadc
mtrindadc 6 mo 30 d
Eru Ilúvatar (J.R.RTN) - vs - Aslan (Divine) (Narnia)
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Aslan (Divine) (Narnia) @Mandos9452 @Salen1110 @Aleazlllll J.R.R. Tolkien, while a devout Catholic, made it CLEAR that his work, including the character of Eru Ilúvatar, was NOT an allegory for Christian theology or a direct representation of the Christian God.

He intended his legendarium to be consistent with his faith but not an exact reflection of it. In his letters, Tolkien stated that his stories were fundamentally Christian in nature, with the religious element absorbed into the story and the symbolism [https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Il%C3%BAvatar].

He also mentioned that Eru could be seen as a conceivable version of God that aligns with Catholic teachings, indicating that he did not believe he was sinning by writing about Middle-earth( https://core.ac.uk/display/14917163).

This suggests that while his faith influenced his writing, he did not intend for Eru Ilúvatar to be a literal parallel to Jesus or the Biblical God.

Is Eru intended as a literal representation of the Christian God?. (https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/124046/is-eru-intended-as-a-literal-representation-of-the-christian-god.)
J.R.R. Tolkien addressed the relationship between his work and his faith in several of his letters. In one instance, he discussed Eru Ilúvatar in relation to the Christian God, stating that while his legendarium is imbued with Christian principles, "IT IS NOT AN ALLEGORY". He envisioned Eru as a conceivable version of God within the context of his fictional universe, which aligns with Catholic teachings but is NOT a direct representation of the Christian God.
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Hesperus
Hesperus 6 mo 30 d
Eru Ilúvatar (J.R.RTN) - vs - Aslan (Divine) (Narnia)
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Eru Ilúvatar (J.R.RTN) @mtrindadc. Yep, Tolkien had a distrust and dislike of allegory, especially obvious allegory as seen in the works of his good friend C.S. Lewis. Tolkien stated in a famous letter that he "I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers.." However, he also acknowledged that The Lord of the Rings developed allegorical elements as he wrote it, such as it being a "fundamentally religious and Catholic work."

In regards to Eru Ilúvatar specifically, Tolkien understood this name in his fictional Quenya language to refer to the actual monotheistic God,." Tolkien drew inspiration for concepts like Eru from his own Christian faith, using names in his Fictional languages to explore theological ideas within a mythological context.
mtrindadc
mtrindadc 6 mo 30 d
Eru Ilúvatar (J.R.RTN) - vs - Aslan (Divine) (Narnia)
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Aslan (Divine) (Narnia) @Hesperus While Tolkien didn't directly comment on Eru Ilúvatar not being linked to a specific religion, his letters contain remarks expressing his aversion to allegory in his work. Here's an example:

"The Lord of the Rings is NOT an allegory of any particular mythology or religion. It reflects a Catholic world-view, so far as the author is a Catholic." (Letter 163)

This quote emphasizes that Tolkien's world, while reflecting his Catholic background, isn't a mere allegory for Christianity. By extension, this implies that Eru Ilúvatar, though similar to a monotheistic god, shouldn't be equated with the God of Christianity.
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